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One thing led to another and before long – with hip hop flowing through his blood – he was hooked. Albums and tracks and productions and gigs later – lots of them – his motivations remain the same. “My main inspiration has and still is life in general. But it’s also other stuff like the things that go on around you; it’s also the things you see and the people you know – all that kind of stuff. As I get older as well, I really do feel like I’m becoming worldly – or at least a bit more worldly than I was before. You know, there are so many things happening in the world and you realise that things that happen overseas do actually relate to what happens here in Australia. So that helps keep things in perspective.”


Indeed, it has been a relief for the crew, getting the album done and all. “That was the thing, the aim – getting the album done and getting people from overseas over do be involved in it. I wanted to talk about the police state that is pretty much in existence everywhere around the world at the moment and the sorts of issues that people have to face as a result of it. It’s easy to sit there and talk about what you think you did well or did badly, or could have done better or whatever. In hindsight, I think I pulled off the project the way I wanted. Of course you could technically go back and do things differently, but the reality is that you have to be happy with what you work on and produce.”


That said, there has been so much material that has been produced, there is plenty of room for seconds. “In the beginning, I was writing heaps of beats and I ended up with a whole backlog of instrumentals that I was writing. The ones that didn’t end up in the right spot might end up somewhere else at another time. You just get to a point where you can’t write any more. So for me, it’s a little about having an arsenal of good quality music that I can call upon when I need it.”


“I use that music as my little inventory; I’ll play stuff to artists that I dig – and of course one man’s trash is another man’s treasure. Now that’s not to say that these tracks were trash, but sometimes there comes a time where you can’t get inspired to write words around a particular track. So for me, I’ve used it as a way of getting good artists promoted and that sort of thing. There are times that I would give guys beats for their own projects or whatever – so I managed to do that really well with the collection of beats that I had.”


And for Ciecmate, it has always been about wanting to start from scratch – and he has enjoyed the opportunity because he wants to do a solo record at some point down the track. As a result, he is having a bit of a break from writing right now. “The next thing I’ll probably do is with by boy Maggot Mouf. But Gargoyle and Newsense are also doing solo projects as well, so we’ll see which one comes first. For me, I’m not planning anything right now because I need to take my time with that. I have the view that I’ll get to it when I get to it.”


Overall, it has been a whirlwind period during his life that now culminates in a new album and tour. “For me, it has been a great period in my career. I’ve recently been on tour with The Funkoars. That has lasted for the last couple of months. We’ve had good crowds, bad crowds and everything in between. It can be a bit of a challenge sometimes getting known, but that’s all part of the fun. You know, there are times that you scream out to the crowd to pump their fists in the air and no one participates – that can be hard. But it’s all part of the experience and it makes you a better emcee and producer as a result. You have to struggle to get to where you want to go ultimately I think.”


“For us, there are about three more shows coming up; and I’ve been really enjoying the live set and the stage. I don’t go in with backup. It’s really just me and Nathan my DJ so I can’t wait to do more and get out there and showcase what we’re on about.”